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in terms of what we think the rates should be for -- and at what point there should be a tax cut and at what point there should be a little revenue that we should collect. there is a difference there. there was a difference about whether or not we should be looking at the social security issue in this discussion. my understanding now the republicans have backed off now, correct, and we are looking at whether or not we are going to end up with deficit and debt reduction and whether or not the changes the republicans are insisting upon are going to comes on the backs of the middle class. >> seine toe, the clock is tick. and i'm sure you heard during your campaign, which you just won, a lot of people saying what is going on with washington? we are so close now this deadline. you can't -- probably hard to put into words how frustrated people are are a lot of talking going on and you can't come together with republicans and they can't come together with you to stop taxes from going up for all americans. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washingt
and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to prevent reimbursements from declining and also have a milk fix, michelle that would prevent the doubling of milk prices which would occur without an extension of subsidies. >> why aren't people more optimistic? i haven't heard about enough spending cuts that would bring republican spending cuts. why are republicans more optimistic now? >> they're concerned spending cuts would not be a part of this deal. i talked to an aide who s
that has the pedal to the metal. what you and i have talked about before repeatedly, $4 in taxes for every dollar in phantom spending cuts. that's fiscal irritation, but the health of corporate america will be what ultimately prevails. >> sounds like david has been reading your book, rick santelli. >> it does. >> big fan of rick. >> this is such a perverse world we live in, okay. let's look as what's happening. down 158 in stocks and that pushed the ten-year yield under 170, okay. >> really. let me get this straight. they can't get a deal on controlling out-of-control debt, so rates go down. i used to trade during graham/rudman and i remember when they couldn't get deficit conversations right, treasuries went down and stocks went down. oh, would i love to get back to that type of reality. >> yeah. but you had a different guy at the federal reserve at the time. >> yeah, a different guy, you know, in hindsight he was maybe the monetizer in charge -- in chief, and we get a little historical perspective on that, but as many things that i disagree with alan greenspan on, i thought he was at lea
to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, one of the questions in the days ahead will be whether or not this strategy back fired because republican leaders on the hill had their feathers ruffled by the fact that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great questi
aboutrd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and th
are working with the white house. plus, what it all means for your paycheck as higher payroll taxes are only days away unless congress acts. one step forward, two steps back. president obama and republican lawmakers have been dancing that waltz for six weeks now, but the music stops when the countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the
're for middle class tax cuts reaching a deal early in january even though this is a g.o.p. middle class tax rate that president george w. bush enacted so, you know, that's the way going forward. >> wait for the first paycheck, it's going to be lower. >> see what happens monday morning, dying to see what happens this weekend. >> yeah, because they are meeting this weekend. >> oh, are they meeting? dagen, it's yours. >> when you are outraged, you sound authoritative. i sound like a crazy red neck. i need your help. putting the band back together, the president hosting party leaders at the white house trying to find middle ground on dealing with the coming tax increases and spending cuts. the damage done already to american business, uncertainty and looming tax burden has owners up in arms. can housing continue to recover among all of this? why washington should not pull out the rug from under this rebound. ship wreck, massive port strike that could happen this weekend halts commerce for the country. top of the hour, stocks now and every 15 minutes, lauren at the new york stock exchange. stocks dow
's no deal, let's look at what happens to tax rates in just seven days and these stats are from the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with
tense meeting with the president. this is perhaps the final effort to avert the tax increase that is expected to cost the average family several thousand dollars a year. four days remain to reach an agreement, get it passed by the house and the senate and signed into law by the president. we're talking a long shot here. now, want to show you the players. president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jes
. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're saying you're both losers, right? >> right. >> my real concern is this is what the current version of america actually voted for. >> the house is different. all politics is local. harry reid, you know which in
these prevent it, in control of whether or not your taxes go up come new year's day. harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were
, if you are at work you can make some really good buys. you have the january effect, the tax loss selling going on all month. this year is an unusual year in that you have also not just tax loss selling but you have people taking gains on stocks that they've held for years that they're trying to take advantage of, the 15% capital gains rate. we've seen a lot of that. the point is there's been a lot more selling this december. i look for several stocks to bounce back in early january. >> you are on hold until you can see the whites of their ey in washington. right? i mean, you're waiting to see what happens with this fiscal cliff? >> i am. i tell you, i think that the christmas gift people are getting right now is to sell above 13,000. we were surprised we're not getting a deal. i'm surprised the market's as firm as it is and it is very easy to overthink this. well, must be firm. the bulls are strong. hey, we go higher. i think that's not the read at all. i think the initial reaction we got when they sent the house of representatives home on thursday night is what we're going to see when t
to do anything related to taxes. we both know each side wants a piece of the other to do those exact things and both sides still refuse. is there anything that means those two factors have changed. >> we saw it on the stock market today and we saw the wild swings as news developments happened throughout the course of the day. it impacted the market throughout date and if that continues that kind of pressure from the outside could really put some force on these members of congress to come together for a deal. the closer we get the more pressure from the outside they're going feel and i think it makes it easier, not harder to get a deal in the last 48 to 24 hour space lot of folks have said that's the sweet spot for a deal anyway and there's another group that says we're going over this cliff, if even just temporarily, michelle. >> thank you, eamon. >> just days from heading back to washington, congressman aaron shaw, republican from illinois. thanks for joining us, representative. you got the call and have to go back to washington sunday, 6:30, what, if anything, are you going to vote
, america goes after a bridge over the fiscal cliff. the spending cuts and tax hikes are expected to take effect. >> the night before the fiscal cliff. the senate gave up until tomorrow. >> there is still time to reach an agreement. >> they dropped the demand to cut social security. >> i am optimistic we can live move legislation and get this averted before tomorrow. >> the taxes will go up on most americans. huge cuts kick in. >> i think it is obvious president obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> president obama blamed republicans. >> they say the biggest priority is making sure they deal with the deficit in a significant way. they are behaving in a way that they're only priority is that the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. blacks mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. -- >> mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. >> can the senate veteran help congress tumble to a deal on the last day? >> if we do go off the fiscal cliff, congress would be more likely to make a deal. members could claim they are cutting taxes. >> thank you. if america does fall off the fi
for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. gets additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military and blame republicans for it. >> attention now turns to the senate which will reconvene on thursday. the 27th. house majority leader harry reid now has the task of trying to cobble something together that could perhaps pass the senate and also pass the house with some republican support. the expectation would be some democratic support. the white house is still calling for the threshold on tax cuts to be a quarter million. it seems unlikely republicans would sign on the that, and officially president obama is supposed to be remaining here in hawaii through the new year, it seems likely he will be heading back to washington sometimes around when the senate convenes. and in the meantime, just up in the air about what is going to happen. is it going to be a very unmerry cliff-mass? perhaps. >> i feel like we should pause and listen to the best sound in the world behind you. the waves crashing on the beach. >> pretty good. thanks. >>> dan
about, as the president describes the so-called bush tax rates to be maintained for the middle class, he was not clear i think by intention of saying exactly what that dollar threshold was. is it the $250,000 number that's been out there for months? the $400,000 number that he apparently put on the table as late as last weekend? some other number? >> i think eamon presumed he was referring to $250,000. so you would raise taxes above $250,000, and talk about spending cuts later. i don't see how that will ever get through the house. isn't that where we started? >> at this point, who is going to vote for that? once you as a republican vote for that, how do you have leverage later on ever in the negotiations? >> i think that sets up if they get the basic plan through the senate on democratic votes only and send that plan to the house, what that sets up is a failure of the plan in the house, because that's not something republicans said they could support in the past. what that would do you do is set up a situation where democrats are daring republicans on the last day of the deadline to vote
the taxes on 98% of the american people to go up. >> richard wolf, you are in washington d.c., the capital of incompetent this morning. >> yeah. >> senator reid used a phrase that has nothing to do with being a republican or democrat at this stage, i don't think, for a lot of people. the phrase he used is the american people don't understand blah, blah, blah what's going on. the american people i would submit don't understand how these people cannot do their jobs that they're elected to. so i'm wondering what's your take on what's going on in washington? you're sitting in washington. >> right. the at least we have bipartisan agreement it's all nuts, right? everyone agrees this is ridiculous and in spite of what they say, they've been talking about it for months and years and there was ample talk about what a framework should be through the election, which wasn't that long ago. there's plenty of debate. to tie the two stories we have been talking wiabout together, there was a colin powerful doctrine that general schwartzkopf executed so well in the first gulf war. which was have an exit str
uncertainty, in taxes and inflation is a big concern. is there anything i can do at my age to protect myself? >> you're a person who does have to heed my 20% in gold bullion. i think the defense is right to have. i'm not going to tell you to buy bonds that will yield 2% think i think gold is going to be the best defense you have against the worries that your just outlined. let's go to anthony in virginia, please. anthony? >> caller: washington redskins booyah p rg3 nation stand up. >> dan snooid ser your owner. have you thought about that at all? >> caller: i have a quick question. >> sure. >> caller: when the market is overbought, should i go for the long-term? >> when it's overbought, my own rule is that plus five, if we're very overbought, hey, take a pass. another time will come. however, you can get started small and hope it comes back if you just can't resist. sam in ohio. sam. >> caller: hey, jim. big glass city booyah to you. >> loving it what's up? >> caller: i got a question. i've been looking at a couple utility stocks, going with preferred instead of the common shares. i wanted t
hawaii for washington, and the senate is reconvening today. now the automatic spending cuts and the tax increases that make up the fiscal cliff, they're set to take effect in just five days. much more on the fiscal cliff crisis, the effort to reach some kind of agreement later this hour. we're going go live to capitol hill for the latest as the senate returns to work. that is coming up in about 20 minutes. >>> and president obama's going to have another cabinet position to fill for the new year. we learned a short time ago apa lisa jackson is stepping down after the president's state of the union speech in january. jackson starting with the agency as a staff level scientist back in 1987. during her tenure as administrator she tackled pollution problems in poor community communities. oil drilling and coal regulations. all those things on her plate. jackson said she is confident epa is headed in the right direction. >>> winter storm causing some real headaches. millions of folks in the mid-atlantic states, we're looking at heavy snow, torrential rain, strong winds, dangerous travel condit
, whether it's the effects of the fed's monetary policy, year end, fiscal cliff tax related issues. the motivations are a little bit different this time around than they were last year. >> yeah. it's not as pressing, some would argue. some were actually saying on friday, maybe it would have been better if the markets had a sharper sell-off because that could have forced the lawmakers to do something as opposed to leave for obama to have a hastily called friday evening press conference saying, you know what, congress, you have ten days, you go work it out. it's doable. >> it's been an interesting year. of course, we started off so well, in terms of expectations for economic growth. we had an election this year, too. i think that's another thing that is sort of the key. we hit europe again as we had the last two years previously. but this last quarter, i think there's been a lot more optimism, even with the fiscal cliff sitting there, as sort of this potential, real roadblock at the end of the year. perhaps even too much optimism some would say. when you speak to ceos, there's still
the cliff. pass the obama tax cut and reinstate the sequester cuts to things like he likes like the national institute of health and cut the defense budget. put republicans in the corner to say you want to bring a bill to the floor? be my guest. am i right? >> bob: my, you are cynical. keep in mind, they said, boehner said he wants to go to the senate. under the constitution, you cannot start a bill on taxes in the senate. has to come from the house. there is a 48-hour limit because you have to have the house of representatives look at it. i think the deal is cut. they will get legislation and vote on it late monday night. >> andrea: do you think a deal is cut? i talk to people and they say no deal. >> eric: there is no deal. they are saying no deal. president obama coming back to d.c. to fix what he broke in the first place. two solid years to deal with it. this is a gimmick, the flying back from hawaii to do this. nothing going over the fiscal cliff. let the tax cut expire. come back in, offer the tax cuts for people under 250. call them obama cuts and get it going. if you are in congress.
cross over the threshold. people are not proposing making the taxes like them. john boehner could not even pass the tax proposal he passed over there. he said no, can't do that. didn't he bring it up for a vote? >> tonight, speaker boehner's office put out this statement. >> joining me now are our guests. clearly the positioning game continues. harry reid saying we did our job months ago. do you think we til would posturing stage at the end of that white house meeting tomorrow? >> in your introduction you made the fundamental point here which is that this agreement before the end of the year, simply cannot go forward unless john by nor is willing to let it do so with majority democrats in the house. if we go over the curve as you put it, they can vote for a large tax decrease becaused off of the new rates that would be reset. they can say we votes to cut taxes for 98% of households. but it is the only scenario that i cap see out there in the near term. >> the building that read has passed. let's lis ep to what mitch mcconnell said about that? >> the senate bill passed with ome dem
passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay hitting the government's 16$16.4 trillion borrowing limit. treasury will take several measures to save that next year to keep the government from reaching the limit for about two months. but geithner warns it is harder to predict how long the delay will last because of all of this ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations making it harder to forecast what revenue and tax spending will be next year. >>> the journal says right here the white house and congressional leaders have shown no signs of progress in the senate or elsewhere. and then, you know, i don't think we've run this bite enough. >> tim geithner told steve liesman. >> i have it ready. >> that he is we should show it multiple times. >> tt i
-called fiscal a cliff right now. the house and senate are striking a deal oh avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts. derek ward is live with more on what's happening today. >> the end is near. that's the end of the year, of course. what about the path that ends at the end of the fiscal cliff. senators should be back at it. the house reconvened this morning. such new year's eve appearances are on the hill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden kept in place to avoid $200 billion in tax increases. broad stroke spending cuts and domestic and defense spending. they would take effect gradually over a period beginning at midnight if the white house and congress can't reconcile their differences. it appeared to have been movement on the cost of living increases for social security recipients. opposition to the white house's proposed rate of increase was dropped but the common ground is even shaky. the fierce disagreement over whether the bush era tax cut with the top income earners should be allowed to expire while middle income earners would see tax relief. the sticking p
. it east a tax. you will be taxed forcibly. they held it up. huge issue and huge court ruling. you are looking at me like that is your biggest -- >> greg: no. that is a huge story. you added a new arm to government. that is a big deal for a lot of people. >> eric: surprising mike didn't make that his sub favorite story of the year. >> juan: she is right. in terms of the american history, the social safety net and this was the missing element. republican and democratic presidents tried to do it and failed to. it's an incredible accomplishment for any president. >> eric: are your siz that we find new taxes in the law? medical device tax. investment tax. >> juan: look, everybody agrees there are blank pages. we don't know what is to come. >> andrea: doesn't that scare you? >> juan: what scares me, rather than get on board there are peep delight in congress shooting spitballs. >> greg: legitimate criticism is not a spitball. nancy pelosi didn't bother to read it. that is not a spitball if you flow a large portion of the economy going to government that do nothing right. that is not a s
on a bipartisan solution. >> senator graham, the question for you is could you vote for a bill that extended tax cuts for 250,000 and below, extended unemployment insurance as the president wants to do and in some way delays some of these automatic spending cuts? could you vote for that in the short term? >> no. if you want leaders, then you have to lead the president has been a pathetic fiscal leader. he's produced three budgets and can't get one vote for any of his budgets. boehner will be tip o'neill. obama needs to be ronald reagan. would i vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them to save the country from becoming greece but i'm not going to set aside the 1.2 trillion in cuts. any hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan b i thought made as soon as. to my republican kcolleagues, te the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. i lime simpson-bowles. the president is going to get tax rate hike
is restricting jobs and tax base. i would encourage people to get involved in your institute and fight this because it is not doing anything for the economy or our country. merry christmas to everybody. host: john, thank you for the call. what is the history of the cato institute, founded in 1977? guest: it was founded to promote liberty and economic freedom, starting in san francisco, and then move into washington, d.c. milton friedman admitted the kindle institute has never sold out. we still work for liberty and freedom. i've been working with the cato institute since 1995 and full time since 2007. host: mary, fort washington, maryland. democrat. caller: i would suggest thinking that if you follow all of the problems come at the end of the trail you will find the smiling grin of greed. that is what i think caused it. for myself, naca program helped us, taking us out of the ugly arm. my mortgage is $964 a month, which will allow us to stay in our home comfortably. guest: people blame things like a financial crisis on greed, but greed is not changing. it has been with us for hundreds
bachelor degrees. the grant pays for itself in the decade. that increased federal income tax rate, it pays for the cost of the po grant. half of the students are not traditional students, but the half that are, they have a typical work load. yet 10 years to pay back the government for the cost of a grant. then there is a 14% return on investment. it is not as much of an advance from the federal government. we should stop thinking about this as being purely a personal benefit to the students. and there is all sorts of good that comes from higher education. there is a lot of good that stems from a college education and as a society, we should be putting the highest possible priority on it. we get what we sow, and you need to be thinking about where we want our society to be in a few decades, and the way to that, and ever improving society is through education, not cutting the one thing that is a real investment. >> another thing i would say, i will give you an example from a parent loan situation. if you get a client, you fail this credit check. you get about $4,000 extra in student loans. i
weapons. >> glor: margaret brennan, thank you. there are eight days now until fhe fiscal cliff of big tax increases for most americans. and across-the-board spending cuts in the federal budget. even with congress adjourned and president obama out of town, erme lawmakers today talked about a last minute deal. >> my own belief is what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer, the president's last offer, split the difference. that would be a package of about $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the 1.1 trillion already done. that would be close to the $4 trillion we need to stabilize the debt and begin to bring it down. >> i would vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes even ugh ih i don't like them, to get a-- to save the country from becoming greece, tax rate hikes are part of the solution driven by the president. but he's going to get tax rate hikes. ratey republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the american public from a tax hike that is not a tax increase in my books. >> glor: with christmas just two nuys away last minute gift buyers are out. today shopper track sa
the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has already announced the incident but not said the
of tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, a couple of months, for example, a temporary turn-off of the sequester, the automatic cuts equally in defense and nondefense programs that nobody wants to happen, you temporarily turn those off, you extend unemployment benefits, you do something about doctor payments under medicare. if that happens, and clears the senate, there would be a bipartisan majority in the senate if it is allowed to get to the floor, then you would have to have speaker boehner agree to put that on the floor, it would pass the house almost certainly, but the speaker has been reluctant to put any bill on the floor for a vote that doesn't have the support of a majority of his own members, of republican members. he would have to breach that rule in order for it to happen before january 1st. >> which is no small feat, as we see. before we let you go, this business has been very forthright in its rise above campaign which basically tell political parties to get it together and do what was right for the country. i see other businesses particularly in d.c. beginning
and will be back tomorrow. they're stuck on the income threshold for higher taxes and the taxevel on large estates. vice president joe biden has taken over as lead negotiator for democrats and expected to keep working with mitch mcconnell. steve handelsman explains why some lawmakers might prefer to go over the cliff. >> reporter: the night before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most americans. huge defense cuts kick in, which some republicans claim barack obama favors. >> it's obvious the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama blamed republicans. >> they say their biggest priority is dealing with the deficit, but the way they're b
% of americans from a tax hike on january 1st. the senate bill could pass tomorrow if house republicans would simply let it come to the floor. despite the impasse in washington, a new gallup poll shows 50% of people still believe it is likely that president obama and republicans will reach an agreement before we go over the curb on january 1st. among the believers is conservative weekly standard editor bill crystal. >> i think what will happen is republicans will be faced on monday, on december 31st, with having to vote on a much worse proposal than the one they didn't give speaker boehner the majority for. >> plan b. do we end up going over the cliff or not? >> i think not. on december 31st when both party members release their voters to vote their conscience, they save americans from a tax hike. >> the gallup poll shows 54% approve of how president obama is handling the vote, 26% approve of how speaker boehner is handling negotiations. 45% democratic leaders approve and 26% gop leaders approve of how they're handling the situation. chief washington correspondent and political writer for the
remain before the u.s. goes over the edge. that means tax hikes and spending cuts that could trigger another recession. congressional leaders will meet today at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. the full house not even expected to return to work until sunday. here is the guest list for today's showdown. the president, vice president biden, senate majority leader harry reid and house minority leader nancy pelosi on the democratic side. house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. l
of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going t
. there was a point when obama moved from $250,000 threshold on taxes to 400. boehner put tax rates. >> boehner said for the first time republicans would be willing to support. the question is, how much his troops would be backing him raising tax rates on those over $1 million. which for given the republican fervent opposition to any raise in tax rates, that was a significant step, but then it stopped. >> during that time about a week where the white house and speaker boehner's office was not criticizing each other. lines of communication were open. since then, it's gone south. >> does it seem like a dull story because it's an artificial crisis created by congress itself. they could solve this thing in ten minutes with ample compromise on both sides. while the country is following this news, it's not a breathless anticipation. >> the only thing that is starting to sink in with people, howie, where i think it is getting more public attention is that people are now realizing that their paychecks really will be a lot lower very soon if nothing gets done. therefore, i think it is very legitimate interes
that everyone have the same tax right, same right to visit people in the hospital - their partners, their husbands their wives. this is the right thing to do.. state rep. greg harris sponsored the bill. he hopes it will come up for a vote in springfield before new lawmakers are sworn in on january ninth. i'm so glad there are hundreds of men, pastors, and rabbis who've said they want to consecrate same sex marriage. on the other hand, i know many churches that will not. we respect both points of view. opposition is intense...as interpretations vary on what's defined in the bible. david smith -- the executive director of the illinois family institute had this to say about the 250 faith leaders: 'if you put that in context to the great number of churches in illinois....it really is a small number of those who are siding against god's definition of marriage.' but, pearson believes opinions are changing. as wayne dyer said, when you change the way you ...there's a change taking place. nine states plus the district of columbia have legalized gay marriage. same-sex couples in illinois c
here on cnn. >>> nine days left before you face a new year with higher taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >>> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican mike crapo was taken to jail in alexandria, virginia, after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. senator crapo has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states, in the mountains of california up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. lake-effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flight
people see your tax returns, 12 years, which his father did, all that stuff. and so mitt romney having lived his life, built his life, to be able to do this, run his campaign is now at home tonight with his tax returns. he is the biggest loser in america. karen finney, biggest loser. >> biggest loser, anybody who was taking their cues from the mitt romney campaign's polls in that last couple of weeks and was out there talking about 300 electoral votes, that was really fun. >> joy? >> it was close, paul ryan, being associated with the biggest loser is almost as bad as being the loser. >> and history, you could go nowhere. >> this time, it was a tie between him and rupert murdoch. his entire news was exposed, fox news was literally exposed on election night. their entire narrative on election night was false, you had the phone-hacking scandal, so he is just a mess right now, a tie, slight edge over ryan. >> the biggest loser, a long-time coming. when i first started to work for senator cantwell, and people discussed things, saying you can't do that because of "the pledge." i didn't know
the massive tax increases and spending cuts that will take place in just eight days brianna keeler is in honolulu. i'm not going to tease you about hawaii being a junket, because i know it's hard work and you're doing something. >> thank you. >> absolutely. i'm a little jealous of the water and backdrop and sand. never mind. i won't hate here. tell us, are there any conversations that are going on between the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are turning towards the senate as it is going to reconvene on thursd thursday. if this fiscal cliff is to be averted, it has to get through both the senate and house with some republican support. so you'r
kept you from talk about low taxes or free markets was being described as being cold, as evil. the dad that never hugged you. that's the biggest of all liberalism is he was the dad who never hugged you. he didn't hate the poor. the aid the poor. -- he aid the poor. a consequence of this, republicans have always had to do this and we don't really fight back. we assume we are cold and we don't know what to do about it except continuing make the economy work why we let the liberals destroyed and we come in every few years and fix it. but right now -- common sense, common sense is viewed as intolerant. the nicest thing that you can see somebody, no matter who it is used to job. the nicest thing you can say. when you're walking down the street and there's a guy panhandling and you say get a job, you are complimenting him. you are saying that you have the will and the means to get a job. but now these days if you say that, you are seen as mean and intolerant. you assume people have the power to act of their own pollution. that is where we're at now, that we can't take ever sells. use of a pe
irs delayed withholding tables for 2013. as a result, employers are planning to withhold income tax at the 2012 rate for the first one or two checks of the year. taxes later in the year could be steep if congress failed to react. so a tax increase averaging nearly $3,700 if the worker is paid every two weeks for over $100,000. that is about $142 per check. once there is a resolution for this embarrassment, for some businesses it could take longer, all because the two sides are fighting over the same issue. what a disgrace. the world is watching. credit agencies are watching. at this point, they seem more worried about which party wins or loses. have a great christmas. we're gonna make some history together today. [cheers and applause] >> when steve jobs handpicked walter isaacson to write his life story, he had already been diagnosed with cancer, but after 40 interviews, the biography provides a vivid picture of a complicated man. >> i think it's a tough book. >> it's a book that's fair. i mean, this is a real human being. >> you will hear tape recordings of jobs himself talking abo
a homeowner in the suburbs. it means rethinking policies that pay for highways with general tax revenues, focusing above all on our city schools which are such critical ingredients for urban success and such a critical problem which despite enormously hard work by people like mayor menino, like the city council, like leaders throughout this country are still so far from what they should be. and, of course, finally, allowing enough building so that every young couple that wants to live in a city can actually afford it. but i don't want to end on something bleak. despite the challenges this world faces, the track record of our species when we work together, when we are powered by our cities is just tremendous. and i have every piece of optimistic belief that cities will continue to power humanity's future and create marvelous things for centuries, if not millennia to come. thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, ed glaeser, i think what we just learned in the last few minutes in addition to learning a lot more about how 40 our cities developed is that no one sleeps in ed glaeser's c
that's not allowed. >> teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff with just 36 days to go until tax increases kick, in the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. >> only in america believes there has to be this what i believe to be really farce ical now surely -- the nature of the world is very fast moving, america has huge economic problems, heading for another fiscal cliff, everyone laughing at you from afenway park the american public sick and tired of all the games going on and there are you, grover norquist, a very bright guy still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many of your own party are now saying you know, what it doesn't make sense to have this irresolute position anymore. >> two things, the pledge is not for life. but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king, who tried to weasel out of it -- shame on him as the "new york sun" says tonight. i hope his wife understands commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below t
in hawaii and, yes, christmas brings us one day closer to possibly the fiscal cliff, the huge tax increases, spending cuts that could take effect in one week or so. brianna keeler is watching there in hawaii, joining us with the update. first of all, how is the president, how is the first family spending the holiday? >> presumably right now they are sleeping in, suzanne, because it is still very early here as you know. >> what time is it? >> we are expecting of course they'll have a christmas. let's see. 6:00 in the morning bright and early. we've been at it for a few hours. we expect them to have a nice christmas meal at the house they're renting. the white house chef is here. maybe we'll get details on what they are going to eat. there is nothing on the president's public schedule. he is frequently gone and visiting with troops in the past so we wouldn't be surprised if he did that again today. i will tell you that bo the dog is actually along for the ride here in hawaii and the white house released a video where bo just really kind of steals the show. let's look at a little of that. this
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